This will be cake I … Just like any other part of the body if youre not using it regularly it becomes lazy and inefficient. I recently checked out forums here and found info on how insulin affects metabolism and how we store energy in the body. The regain of weight takes several days – it doesn’t happen in a single day. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. If you eat 2000 calories you will neither gain nor lose weight. Not sure if it is true but it is a very nice idea. I now do one day 36 hours per week. Go out for a walk, get some sunshine, but don’t go for a workout or anything similar the first time you try it. I was also much hungrier through the day! Blog Summary:. Welcome to The Fast Diet › The official Fast forums › Body › Different approaches to intermittent fasting › 2 complete 36 hour fasts per week? I certainly wouldn’t recommend embarking on a 48-hour fast if you have not attempted at least a few 24-hour fasting periods prior. On fast days I have consistently lost 1.0-1.5 Kgs of weight each time. (The SURPRISING Truth). Buy a copy today. So to suggest initial weight loss with fasting is water loss only is perhaps a bit simplistic, as it’s also likely to reflect the reduced food intake? Thanks Franfit and Amy. Along the same lines, I would recommend that everyone educate themselves about her studies. Based on my experience, you don’t need to go longer than that. All of us fast to some extent because we do not eat when we are asleep. 12 weeks later 80.7kg, BMI 30.1, chol 5.9, tryglicerides 0.8 Different approaches to intermittent fasting, Start a new topic in Different approaches to intermittent fasting, Michael Mosley Australian tour September 2019, If your clothes are looser but the scales are the same, read on, Keep Fasting with JoJo(continued from Lose 2 lb per week). Here are some graphs to make it a little clearer. It is good you are taking quick measures to improve them. You then say you regain 3 pounds of fat the next day. When I hit my goal weight, I’ll cut back to two 24-hour fasts and possibly increase the calories in my lunch that begins the fast. It allows you to detox and get rid of all of the by-products of metabolism. So I recorded everything and Iâm gonna show you what happened in a second here. I have been doing two 33-hour water/coffee-only fasts twice a week (Tuesday & Friday) for three months now. In this article, we discuss how to perform a 48-hour fast … Hi, GreigC and vicki. And youâre gonna see how much weight I lost in a second here from doing this 48 hour fast. As for quick results, mine took about 45 hours, I have heard of them being either early or late by a few hours… You say you are losing 3 pounds of fat in one day, so 3 pounds of fat must have left your body, not just transferred from your fat to your blood. Yes, I skipped right over the 48 hour fast (more on this later). The 72-hour mark is truly the END of the unpleasant preparation for the Real results can begin. I find the main hunger time is mid afternoon (this is when I turn to this forum for inspriation and solidarity!) WoW now that clears up alot of the doubts i had. If we could let the pounds of fat disappear by three for no known reason except they do, and then develop a pill that somehow prevented them from coming back the next day, we might have a very valuable pill indeed. I am reposting this as a separate topic because I got insufficient response when I added it as a reply to a related topic. Therefore the most fat that will be burned that day when you eat zero calories is 2000 calories worth – enough to keep the body functioning and operating at its normal pace. very inspirational. Fasting for 72 hours offers greater health benefits, such as ketosis, for example. Some state BONs post in 8 to 12 hours (and others take a month) so depending on where you are, you may be able to get them much sooner. Hi GreigC in my opinion unless you have any medical reasons i dont see it being a problem if your able to do it, and it works for you. In the research on alternate-day fasting, they found very little muscle lost. The liver is now doing what it was designed to do. IFtas, I agree it can be easier to cut out food on fast days, rather than finish up hungrier through having mini meals. Weight is now 73.3, BMI 27.59, will do the blood tests again next week after 40 weeks, hopefully my cholesterol has dropped further and tryglicerides have stabilised at the low reading of 0.8ish. People on this site regularly report losing more than three pounds in a day, or five or six pounds a week, while eating regularly (doing 5:2 or 4:3 or whatever). Then wake up Tuesday and go to the gym after having fasted 32 hours (8 + 16 + 8). Acknowledging that everyone is different and generalizations are by definition not precise, the way the ‘numbers’ work is like this –. Like some others have reported, I have found it much easier to just not have any food* throughout a fast day, and I will continue with this approach. Intermittent fasting. Always workout fasted just before you break your fast cos you will feel stronger and have a more efficient workout without fatigue due to the high levels of epinephrine as a result of the fast. http://postimg.org/image/4px7nsfdn/, My fat vs non-fat loss for my last fasts: Never skip a meal. Going into a ketotic state has several benefits. Intermittent fasting or shorter fasts are great, but they're a different tool than longer fasts. I posted on FB about a 48 hour fast that I did, and a fried asked me for a bit more detail, so I decided to write this blog. You've been lied to. Again. But you are right: I am regaining too fast to be down to simple fat gain, so some of this must be water or perhaps as simple as excretion going as normal without any replenishment, leading to a nett deficit. Keep checking your BONs website. Queue weekend… For the first hours of the fast, I was gold. Then went to 1 meal every 48 hours, but I gave myself about a 4-6 hour feeding window. I used to do two consecutive day fasts so about 60 hours. It sounds like a long time but it isn’t long enough to have a problem if you are getting a balanced diet on your non fasting days. While I do feel a little tired on fast days I certainly have sufficient energy to go for long walks (10km), and do whatever else I need to do, and I am sure if I was into it I would have no trouble jogging etc. The real test will be whether I can keep this weight off for the next nine months. Like water. That is the definition of TDEE. You asked, What is the science of dry fasting for longer than 48 hours? The solution for me is 2 500 calorie fasts and 1 total autophagic fast for 36 hours. Dr. Krista Varady discovered through studies that the best way to lose the weight was to eat about 500/600 calories a day on the fast day. People starting a keto diet typically fast for forty-eight hours to get into ketosis – though studies so far show it can take 20-48 hours for different bodies to make the shift. @roryoc. Just wondering what is the optimal approach. I would guess you are watching water weight fluctuations. It improves insulin sensitivity. I personally find that food stimulates my taste buds, so for me it is just easier not to eat at all 2 days a week (I still cook dinner for my husband and drink water while he has his dinner and wine) @roryoc 2 x 36 hour fasting is not a long time. He has studied fasts between 12 and 72 hours but total fasting i.e water or black tea/coffee only. I always say that weight loss might be the least impressive benefit of fasting when you consider all the improvements in your bio markers from simply taking a break from eating. I tried 3 500 calorie fasts per week but was advised to take BCAA once before and once after weight lifting. I am now hovering around 70-72 Kgs. The most difficult part was from 20–28 hours, before I went to bed the second night. Make sure to try 48 hour fasting the first time on some days off, when you’re not stressed. Then I did 3 days of fasting and got over a plateau. Keeping busy can make it easier still. Does Fat Make You Fat? See her chapter titled Why 500 Calories? ), the 5:2 fast diet is not prescriptive. However, I remain open to reviewing any research studies you have indicating body fat levels can go several pounds up and down on a daily basis. Assume now you eat nothing that day. That’s why it’s a great idea to do a 48 hour fast at least once within a few months. Please email our technical contact. I hope your blood sugar levels improve. I have to believe we are having a scale issue, not anything else. I am eating normally or if anything a bit more than normally the next day after a fast. Dr. Varady says that the studies on people have confirmed that 25% is the perfect percentage for every other day dieting. Doh! This topic contains 53 replies, has 30 voices, and was last updated by michelemm1 2 years, 9 months ago. My way of life is such that it makes sense to fast on the weekends but not during the week. Like others I have been surprised how easy it is to do without food. By fasting regularly cells that are only able to do well in a glucose rich environment are killed off first and are replaced with cells that operate well using both glucose AND ketones. Prolonged dry fasting means fasting for more than 24 hours. best of luck, FFL x, Hi GreigC From Saturday's OMAD to Mondays OMAD. Does anyone know what the medical drawbacks are with this approach? vicki, your diet and especially your exercise regime sound very impressive indeed. Ie no food for my 36 hour fast, twice a week. I’m gonna show you so if you guys are interested in content like this such as diet nutrition fitness Articles. I’ve had steady weight loss, much improved blood values and feel great. Hi GreigC, it’s my assumption, that when you follow a regime, like in gym or even in eating, you stop challenging your body. I lift weights 3 times a week so I’m trying to dovetail the Autophagy with building muscle and losing weight. My simple (and probably wrong) model of what is going on is that on fast days my fat cells are releasing Free Fatty Acids into my body for energy (which can only happen when insulin levels are low) and on non-fast days my fat cells are sucking back most of that fat/sugar. Coupled with what you eat on NFDs you should see improvements in all those things you mentioned by fasting. Reducing fat while building muscle is a bit of a dance. You need to eat 6 small meals a day. bigbooty: Hope your plateau turns into a gentle downward slope. Some athletes can lose 10 or 15 pounds in a few hours, but they need IVs afterward to get rehydrated. I go without any food at all, food is not on the menu on a fast day. If you are in general good health apart from excess weight then 36 hours isn’t a long time. I am still doing 2, 36 hour water fasts a week and feel great. My question is, is it safe for me to fast this way? That seems a perfectly reasonable thing to do, GreigC. Do you think that doing this twice a week is good enough to repair insulin resistance”? Cutting added sugars down to less than 20g/day got me another 7kg and 5:2 has taken me another 5kg or so. It mentions that ’24 hour’ fasts may in reality stretch out to cover a 36 hour period, and suggests that the best timings within the overall framework are what suits the individual. A few years ago I did the 5:2 for a period of about 6 months but found it difficult to keep track of food and found I kept thinking of food and my next bite from the 500 cal stockpile. I am at hour 24 of a 40 hour fast. These measurements are from my household scales, and I agree with you that I am probably not eating enough to put all these calories back (though I must be eating enough to put the weight back). I am glad I didn’t break down and eat at that time. So it is hard for someone that is eating food seven days a week to lose a lot of fat weight fast. Things got easier (but not easy) around 40 hours into the fast. Viewing 50 posts - 1 through 50 (of 56 total). While some of that weight loss is fat, a lot of it is water, or ‘food in transit’ loss. I feel fine. The body has stores of sugar it will draw on, but lets assume it is all out of sugar and can draw only on fat stores to get its 2000 calories. Fasting forces your body to get back into a more “state of nature” style of operating and brings a host of benefits with it. http://postimg.org/image/lneocakhp/, My fat vs non-fat loss for my first fasts: ” 48-hour of fast weight loss results. My lifts increase but at a snails pace which I think I can do better with the new setup. Try fasted and maybe a little pre work food if the results are not right. Highly satisfied with this approach to date. No great revelation there. And again, there is no scientific data out there that proves that breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Intermittent Fasting is basically an extended time period when you don’t eat. If we completely fast for up to 36 hours will that slow our metabolism down and we then lose muscle? I have decided to continue this way each week doing two complete fasts of at least 36 hours. In fact, I would even go so far as to say I found it easier eating no calories than eating the 600 calories as eating anything on a fast day tends to trigger hunger for me rather than keep it at bay. Soon, I found myself going 24-hours, sometimes by accident. Obviously there is a lot of water in food, but the food passing through you also has a dry matter weight (and a fat content?!). I discovered many things about my fasting experiences, most of all, I love fasting!!! Even athletes in training for the Olympics rarely eat that much food in a day. At hour 20 I beagan to get very hungry but after drinking about 12 oz of water the hunger subsided. It is also why it is so important not to get overenthusiastic when they see a quick, large weight loss (often at the start). I also have the e book Eat, Stop, Eat and in there he says that it is a myth that you go into “starvation mode” in a few hours of fasting. Roryoc. But what better way to reset your diet and get a head start with your weight loss than doing an extended fast? My aim was to get down to about 68-70 Kgs, which was my weight when I was in my mid-20s, twenty-five years ago. Our recommendation on this timeline comes from Tim Ferriss and his experience. Hi Penguin, have you had any issues with muscle loss, or worries about potential vitamin / nutrition deficiency with those long fasts? The hunger is mild an if I eat I’m sure I feel a lot more hungry. Like, no. She found that eating 0 calories did not contribute to weight loss as well as 1/4 of the total calories. Unfortunately the 48 hour fast only brought the weight down to 58kg /127lb. I do my own take on IF, with limited success – I think that is because I have an excessive appetite. If you eliminate sugar and processed grain based foods (bread, pasta, pizza, biscuits, breakfast cereals etc) your well on your way. The Fast books are available throughout the world and in many different languages. I have started doing two 36-hour full zero-calorie fasts per week. I found this very manageable and did not have any bad hunger pangs or other negative side effects. I agree it’s impossible to burn 3 pounds, but I haven’t seen any evidence that you can’t release it into the blood stream. thanks. I also eat well above my TDEE on non-fast days, so that slows down the weight loss but I think it helps with building the muscle. If in doubt, go talk to your GP. For me eating nothing during the 36 hour fasting window is the easiest. in the In Depth/Q&A section of this site. Itâs stored energy thatâs waiting to be used. It is now Friday afternoon and my weight is 56.1 kg which is down even further than what I had wished for. I chose to not eat during the fast to ensure that my insulin levels remained low throughout the fast – so it made no sense to eat 600 calories per day during ‘fast’ times. I thought the mini meal on fast day was designed to keep our metabolism up and prevent muscle loss. Officially, the idea is that an unsupervised 24 hour fast is safe for almost anyone. Just my view. Following a long fast, not only will your stomach be empty but also the rest of your digestive system. In fact of late Ive had to force myself to eat a little more than Ive wanted to, as the weight is creeping downwards slightly and I really don’t want to lose any more. The 5:2 diet works, but the Fast Every Other Day Diet works as well. (Sun evening – Tues morning and again Wed Evening – Fri Morning. I decided that since I’ve done a 24 hour fast before, going for 60 hours would be pushing myself to the limit. She also states that “at 25%, mice had the maximal amount of weight loss with the minimal level of muscle loss. Life happens. Go to sleep for another 8 hours. Inspired by a colleague who took to IF due to TOFI concerns, I started about 2 months ago with the 500 calories-spread-across-the-fast-day approach and found it a bit of a struggle – not impossible of course, but certainly it was difficult to feel like I was fasting if I was still munching through a small breakfast and occasional vegie stick snack through the day. Here's a link to dates and tickets. simcoeluv: Why would I have to eat 10000 calories the next day to replace what I had excreted? This video is short clips of … The rest of the day I drink water. Regular small time scale true fasts (you can do longer fasts if you want to but I don’t really think its necessary) of 1-2 days is long enough for you to flip into a ketotic state. I have made no attempt to have 600 calorie meals, knowing that eating a little makes me want to eat more, stoking up my big appetite. So basically fast on my rest day. 36 hour fasts are great expecially when you keep your body in that fat burning state when you break the fast by eating foods with just protien and fats e.g eggs and meat etc and also cos of the high insulin sensitivity during the early hours. Performing a 48 hour fast can be a scary thought, but with the right tips and plan, you can successfully make it through your fast. Most find that within a few weeks they hit a plateau. 18 months ago when I was trying to lose with the standard eat less move more approach I was gaining fat and losing lean body mass. I want to try to incorporate of a weekly 48 hour fast in my routine. So 48 hours and 72 hours, once a week fitting well into my schedule, but 5:2 not so much. You have about 20,000 calories worth of energy in the form of stored fat in your body. Here's my 48 hour fasting results, along with the hidden benefits I discovered. Personal experiences can vary depending on the type of fast, age, or health of the individual, but these should give you a general idea of what to expect when you fast. maybe a grand total of 3 hours in total working out every week and theyâve all gotten some amazing results. level 1. I fast 2 out of 7 days, so I am regaining most of it in the remaining 5. I watched some YouTube videos from Jason Fung; one called the Calorie Deception and the other called Theraputic Fasting. Michael looks at the Horizon special, "What's the Right Diet for You" and tells us which diet they say is best for him. That seems to work best for me. A lot of people experiment and find their own variations of this diet that work for them. I am now able to fast with ease, don’t get headaches (the keto flu). I also worked out both days of fasting because, why not? Michael Mosley gives an update for 2019, current research in the field and announces a tour starting in February. Congratulations on your determination. R. Hi folks, just adding my newbie’s perspective (female, 39, lacto-ovo vegetarian, fructose-aware, 178cms tall, weight maybe 70kgs, living in Tasmania, Australia). If instead you fast for a complete day, the effect is as you describe, where you eat Sunday night and again Tuesday morning, for example. I also happen to be 63. GreigC, this is the only way I can fast too – consume nothing but liquids – if I have food, I break my fast. If I wasn’t building some muscle, my weight would probably be a good bit lower. Studies suggest that fasting results in increased production of brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF), which increases the resistance of neurons in the brain to dysfunction and degeneration. I had read Krista Varady’s book–The Every-Other-Day diet. On M/W/F I eat a 500-600 calorie lunch and then I don’t eat again until lunch the following day. It is confusing though that they consistently show that on fast days only fat is being lost, and this becomes more pronounced as the number of fasts continues. I thought I was “fat but fit”!! Many people are obviously happy with the 500/600 calories on fast days, but quite a number also do total fasts, it really depends on how you feel and if it makes YOU feel good. Great to hear all the positive views on 36 hour water fasts. Your email address will not be published. Good luck. So probably the scales are inaccurate in some way. My impression is that I am not gouging myself on non-fast days, although I am not counting calories, I think you must be right in part that I can’t be eating so much more so some of this is probably fluid. Technical questions or problems with the site? I am aware that many people don’t like, or even believe in, ‘the numbers’. It is sort of a fact that there are around 3500 calories in a pound, so a person would have to take in over 10000 calories of food (over and above TDEE calories) to replace the used/excreted energy from the prior day’s three pound release. I chose to do the two 36-hour fasts per week on nonconsecutive days because I heard Michael say that it is at the 36-hour mark that the body really responds in amazing ways to the fast. Science-backed Health Benefits of Fasting Defined as the abstinence from food for a fixed period, fasting has been linked to several health benefits, including weight loss and better brain function. I’m going to continue 2 other alternate days of fast probably with 500 calories in the evening. But hey, thatâs okay. Although 24 hours is where health experts draw the line, some people claim to do relatively regular dry fasts of 48-72 hours. I decided to read The Every Other Day Diet book — the diet that Dr. Mosley tried and decided was too hard. I don’t know how long I’ll continue this pattern but this is my 3rd or 4th week of it. It usually goes away into day three and after that, my energy is usually at its peak, my mental clarity … Many believe they apply, but just not to them, because of their metabolisms, the foods they eat, etc. Losing 3 pounds of fat in one day and regaining 3 pounds of fat the next is pretty much impossible. Your insulin levels will plummet, giving your pancreas a well earned rest. Why Is It Hard To Lose Weight? I’d also like to read any informed response to your question. Nicely formulated. Pity. When I admitted that twice a month I was going from 6pm Sunday to noon Wednesday on fluids only they told me I was mad. I fast three times a week for 24-hours. When people say they are fasting really what they are saying is that they have had a reduced number of calories for the day, strictly speaking its not the same thing. dmdw, I have never heard that fasting for 36 hours would slow down anyone’s metabolism. Also, fasting isn't linear, so doing two 48-hour fasts doesn't get you the same level of autophagy as one continuous 96-hour fast. I then ate breakfast at around 9.30 on Friday morning bringing my total fast to 38 hours. Listed are Health benefits of fasting for 48 […] I love my coffee but not enough to drink it black or give it up on a fast day, so whatever works!). That means your body needs 2000 calories to operate that day. Anyway, that’s my 2 cents worth. I am a 63 year old female t. In January new GP made threatening noises about type 2 diabetes which scared the hell out of me. Doing a 48 hour fast goes against about 99% of conventional wisdom about nutrition out there. I am losing weight and tie it in with circuit classes on the morning of my fast. I am then burning the sugars on the eaten on the non-fast wouldn’t I, plus storing anything extra as fat. http://postimg.org/image/fx12xjj4z/. I am still losing weight (but more slowly now) and have another 5kg to go, I either swim 4km or use the crosstrainer for 1 hour 6 mornings a week. It goes against everything we’re told not to do. I am jus starting but will try 36 hours starting next week and if I need I lost almost 3 pounds from my 48 hour fast. I am now at my weight target, so I am only fasting for 36 hours once a week. The Lean Body Blueprint: 21 Day Weight Loss Challenge, The best workout when doing intermittent fasting. Sleep 8 hours and repeat It was easy (hopefully not beginners luck!). I usually go to bed at around 9, it’s easier that way:)) ( I am doing an almost 36 hours fast, that is from end of dinner on , lets say, Monday till breakfast time on Wednesday ).But beware: do drink a lot of water and tea cause we are not taking water from food either on our total fast days so we need more. An alternative reason for her sudden 2 1/2 pound loss might simply be she was retaining water for a couple of weeks. I now tend to do 1 40 hour fast and on 4 other days have only dinner, then eat normally at the weekends. I chose to do the two 36-hour fasts per week on nonconsecutive days because I heard Michael say that it is at the 36-hour mark that the body really responds in amazing ways to the fast. I lost almost 3 pounds from my 48 hour fast. Being able to stay at home helped. It improves mental clarity and concentration. She stayed on the diet and was also losing fat weight at a ‘normal’ pace. I found the 24 hour fast, followed by the 400-500 calorie dinner worked for me. 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